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Dr. Groves deflects discussion of 2010 Census in interview and talks about 2020 instead….

The Census Bureau’s PR and spin team is at it again. What better way for Census Director Robert M. Groves to avoid talking about the failures of the 2010 Census than to discuss the 2020 Census? Even more shocking is the mainstream media’s failure to report on the Census Bureau problems and jump all over the quote from the interview with Federal News Radio:

Director Robert Groves told Federal News Radio the Bureau is already planning to test using the Internet using the American Community Survey (ACS).

“One of the things I’m committed to,” said Groves, “is to using the surveys, especially the American Community Survey as a platform to test various ideas for 2020.”

No way! In the year 2020, the Census Bureau plans to use, get this, the INTERNET! That’s only like 10 years behind what all the rest of the developed nations are doing!

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4 Responses to “Dr. Groves deflects discussion of 2010 Census in interview and talks about 2020 instead….”

  1. EntertainmentTonight Says:

    What nations currently use the internet to complete their census? The director mentioned Canada, but I did not hear any others. What are the concerns with doing an internet based count? Are there any unique problems presented by doing it in the US vs a smaller country? It sounds like the ACS will be up and running before 2020.

  2. JAG Says:

    I don’t see any proof in your post that he deflected anything. Is it not appropriate for the director of the agency to discuss long term plans?

    Using the internet for completing the Census is much more complicated than putting up a website. If people refuse to enter their address, how do you determine where they live so the could is properly link to the city, county, and even state they live in? How do you prevent somebody from entering a fictitious address? Or more realistically, how do you prevent somebody from entering hundreds or thousands of fictitious addresses? Websites across the world are attacked everyday with denial of services so how can the Census safeguard against that? Are you suggesting that having access to the internet is a requirement to being counted? How do you accurately determine which houses responded and which ones don’t if addresses aren’t provided?

    Just some food for thought?

  3. EntertainmentTonight Says:

    Thanks JAG. I forgot to mention what you covered first. I’m sure if asked, the Director would have addressed the computer problems. The discussion was about 2020.

  4. AxionJaxon Says:

    This is a red herring to the techno-geeks out there.

    The nations that use the Internet in their Census — like Canada — make it available only if the individual has the form’s identifying number to use on the internet. It’s the only way to use the Internet in the Census and not count people multiple times.

    So only the organized people who would send their form in anyway will be able to use this option. They’re the most likely to simply mail in their form today

    They’re also the least likely to worry about the black helicopters getting their address and the DNA analysis the Census bureau does on all envelopes an individual licks close

    (really, it’s called satire, try it some time)